Diners black to bank transfer not working on Snapay: card not supported.
Snapay (Credit card to Bank/Credit card Transfer) Guide
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There are plenty of threads with credit card to bank transfer. And the best one is Snapay (just check it's reviews on play store and iOS) and compare with other apps. It is best option with very low failure rates (u get option to provide some other account details in case of failure).
People keep asking me in chat. So here I am writing one detailed post on this. I have been using it since over an year and many people are using for more than that without any issues.
Prerequisites -
1. Complete Full KYC with Aadhar and PAN.
2. Register with Twid pay with reward programmes and understand their benefits. Top 3 reward programs are intermiles, zillion and supercoin.
3. Intermiles can be used to get discount on Amazon vouchers (25 discount on 500 using 61 intermiles, i mostly go with this), Purchase Amazon vouchers directly (500 voucher for 2900 intermiles) and Flight tickets (u need to keep checking regularly to get good value). It can also be used on Twid pay to pay partially at 0.25 per points (u won't get points when redeeming). There are additional vouchers when u cross intermiles tiers, which give a good boost as well In general, I rate it at 0.22rs per intermiles as a conservative estimate.
4. Payback/Zillion is similar to intermiles. U can buy Amazon vouchers at 0.25 per point from payback Gyftr (most used by me). Or It can also be used on Twid pay to pay partially at 0.25 per points (u won't get points when redeeming). In general, I rate it at 0.22rs per payback point as a conservative estimate.
5. Supercoins - Best value u get is on cleartrip (1 point is 1 rupee). It has very low capping, so it is good for small transaction of 1500-2000. Though I avoid accumulating too much now a days, as cleartrip is changing SuperCoin usage continuosly.
6. Add your bank account or credit card , in which u want payment as beneficiary under utility payments category. For credit card, account number is same as credit card number and IFSC code can be obtained from google (say search sbi credit card neft payment for sbi IFSC code). Mobile number can be anything other than urs, it doesn't send anything on that number.
Now that you understand these prerequisites, here is the payment method.
1. Go to utility payments, select beneficiary, select any purpose (general payments or credit card payment or anything else), select sender for better returns, T+1 as transaction method and Pay with rewards as payment method.
2. Ensure that u see 2.5% charges. Usually they take 3.5% charges, but often run offers with 2.5% charges. Do transaction only during offer period.
3. Login to PWR account and select Intermiles/Zillion as payment method depending on which is giving better returns. It keeps changing from 3-10% depending on offers. Divide that by 4 to calculate the value u will get.
4. Check the cashback amount also. This varies from 0.5-1.5% depending on offers.
5. In general sum of intermiles/zillion divide by 4 and cashback amount easily exceed 2%. So, effective charge will be less than 0.5%. Don't transact if it doesn't exceed that and wait for better offers.
6. Sometimes it gives pretty good offers like 0.2% net charge or even 0%, though that is a bit rare. 0.5% net charge is pretty easy to get.
7. Now use any visa/mastercard/rupay card for payment. Diners and Amex doesn't work. Some of rupay cards also don't work. You will get reward points based on utility category (4900 MCC). Any card with more than 0.5% reward rate on utility category will make it net positive return.
8. Now to use the cashback, u got in previous transaction, u need to do another transaction of minimum 1500. Repeat same process as above. SuperCoins earn option is better for this small value transaction. Don't use supercoins redeem option, that gives terrible return.
9. You may also use cashback on magicpin twidpay to buy small value vouchers without any minimum transaction criterion.
Bonus benefits -
1. You can pay credit card bill using UPI under credit card payment tab and get 1% cb (minimum amount should be 2000) in snapay wallets.
2. This can be used for 50% of convinience fee when using utility payments for same day category.
3. Same day charges are 3% and T+1 charge is 2.5%. So, in net , u r saving 1% (u need to pay 1.5% instead of 2.5%) using 1.5% from snapay wallet. So basically u r getting 0.67% return on credit card payments via UPI . Of course, this is only when u intend to use utility payments.
Transaction limits -
1. 20K per transaction, 5 transaction per day for T+1
2. 15K per transaction, 1 transaction per day for same day
In general, Snapay won't ban you for any transfer under above limits. It is literally written in their description as official method for credit card to bank transfer. They just want to be sure that transactions are genuine and there won't be any chargeback. So don't use any card which is not in ur name to avoid any payment stuck issues.
But credit card company may see it as misuse. Utility category mcc has very low mdr. In general, I feel if ur usage don't exceed 30% of credit limit, it's all fine.
I have tried to cover everything in this detailed post. Please don't PM me. Everything I know is listed already and u need to re-read, if u r not seeing something. The whole purpose of this post is to avoid those DMs😅.
If still have queries, u can ask in this post and fellow dimers will respond.
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Just because people are getting confused, I am mentioning again in one post. First time users, Read first post for more information. And don't DM me😂.
Select T+1 -> Pay with Rewards -> Supercoins Earn -> Phonepe wallet -> PHONEPE PVT LTD Merchant (7399 MCC)
2.5% Charges, 8% Supercoins, 0.2% CB. Max transaction amount of 3750. For CB redemption, do another Transaction of 3000.
If u get at least 0.3 per supercoin value, it's net zero charge plus free cc rewards. Anything more is more profitable. Best value (1:1) is from cleartrip flights bookings (Max 750 on Tuesdays) and Few 100% supercoins usage products. You can also use on Flipkart products and Gift cards for 5% extra discount, if you have Flipkart VIP. You can also use on Myntra vouchers, if you have Myntra insider, although this is 4:1 conversion since last few months.
If u don't find anything useful, redeem on Snapay at 0.25 per supercoin. That is still just about 0.6% net charges, which is least.
Ensure you get PHONEPE PVT LTD on OTP page. Anything else (Fx Mart, PHONEPE PRIVATE etc) won't give points with most cards. Sometimes it takes 25+ attempts to get this MCC. Sometimes Phonepe doesn't allow card option at all. You just need to try again after some time.
MCC is 7399 and I think only hsbc cashback has excluded this mcc so far. All other cards should give normal points. 5% for SBI Cashback, 4.8% for Magnus Burgundy, 3.33% for Infinia, 3% (6% with 3x Subscription) for Yes Reserv, 3.75% for BOB Eterna, 2.5% for BOB Snapdeal etc. HDFC Swiggy doesn't have inclusion under 5% for 7399. So just normal 1% for HDFC Swiggy.
I think Amex/Diners/Pineperks also work here. I have verified pineperks myself. I tried Amex Sapphiro and it worked fine till OTP page. On diners, it went to a blank screen, but that maybe because it's a closed card. You can try and see.
Ye problem shi ho tab to kare kucch
KYC not processing, constantly giving something went wrong error, tried with aadhar, after otp page error comes. Says can use Pan card, I am hesitant to give, is this the usual? or what is the process, thanks
@Knight11 what is the validity of Snapay Reward which we get after paying CC bill?
I see my reward cash getting vanished without entry in the transaction
I am not sure, I have heard people claiming even after a month.
Snapay stopped giving 16x reward and cashback.
I did the transaction at midnight. It gave 16x at that time. What is the factor now?
Cashback part has been variable and keeps reducing, increasing or remove.
Had a very weird experience today on my 3+ year old snapay account. They detected something suspicious and asked me to share snapshots of card image, pan, sms debit screenshot and passbook screenshot.
I shared everything and now they are asking me to send a declaration that I will not file any chargeback in future for these transactions. How can they ask not to file chargeback even before fulfilling the service? Isn't it against basic consumer protection laws? I asked them the same. Let's see if they agree.
Do note that the account is full kyc 3 year old account with no chargeback history and card also belong to me only and have used on Snapay earlier for much more transaction amount. This one is under 10K only.
Did you use any new card or prepaid card ?
Anyone tried SC earn option today?
It is showing 75 lesser amount on OTP page even with sc earn option. Is it treating earn as redeem? Or is it allowing simulatenous earn and redeem? Or is there some bug and it is giving 75 discount for free and also giving 8% sc?
just tried ,not showing for me .is it still showing like that for u ?
Super coin option removed.
it's still showing for me. May be removed on only few accounts where bug was seen yesterday.
I could see supercoin option only 2 times and after that option gone. Same happned in another account too. First time used snapay in this month. Same issue with everyone? Now only 2 times a day/month limit for supercoin?
yes, its 2 times per day.
@Knight11 @abhishek012 @Vijay_Thalapathy @Chef One another problem I am facing is, after selecting Supercoins (either discount or earn) getting message to use flipkart cards only. Any solution to this??
Some people r getting this. Use saved card. If don't have any saved card and then ask twidpay support.
@Knight11 Pay with rewards not showing up for T+1 payment.
Also, Is payment getting declined for AU card?
Yes, temporary issue on t+1. Use same day, of wait for weekend T+smart or wait for support to fix.
Au decline most of the utility mcc these days.
How do I earn intermiles through snappay? I didn't get it
Axis ACE & Atlas give rewards for Snapay PWR still vaild? Ceiling on max rewards that can be earned?
Axis Atlas - you can pay through Education payment on other apps like housing app etc
how to use with sbi cashback card? pls help, read the comments, but seems its not working? is it, I have kyc account, but never used it, please help @abhishek012 @knight @Knight11 thanks
Can we provide masked aadhar as a proof ?
One request : This trick has been there from long time if you were using Snapay but it has now become more public. Plz don't abuse this trick and use moderately so that it works for longer time. Otherwise banks will start declining transactions for this merchant also, specially twid pay(Axis flipkart card is already blocking it).
This tricks are better to be sent in DMs because Youtubers will definitely viral them for few views. @Knight11, @abhishek012 I think now most dimers have seen it, it is better to hide this post.
Nothing lasts forever.
And this is not a trick. It's a legitimate method to pay on snapay. You are paying to get back something.
And if u don't believe in sharing and want to enjoy it urself, why join this forum😂. The whole purpose of forum is sharing, otherwise it will be dead.
I will like 100 people using something for 1 day rather than 1 people for 100 days😄.
Cards with at least 1.5% reward rates excluding redemption charges and considering 1:1 value for airmiles cards.
Utility MCC -
Axis Atlas - 4% (+1% milestone)
Axis Ace - 2%
HDFC Infinia - 3.33%
HDFC DCB Metal - 3.33% (+2.5% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
HDFC DCB - 3.33% (+1% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
ICICI Emerald Metal - 3%
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5% (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
BOB HPCL - 1.67% (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
IDFC Wealth (not for Snapay 4900) - 2.5%
IDFC Select (not for Snapay 4900) - 2%
AU LIT - 2.5%
SC Smart - 2%
Wallet MCC - (Load to payzapp wallet and use payzapp card on Snapay PWR)
ICICI Emerald Metal - 3%
BOB Eterna - 3.75% (+1% milestone)
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5%
IDFC Wealth - 2.5%
IDFC Select - 2%
AU LIT - 2.5%
SC Smart - 2%
Just because people are getting confused, I am mentioning again in one post. First time users, Read first post for more information. And don't DM me😂.
Select T+1 -> Pay with Rewards -> Supercoins Earn -> Phonepe wallet -> PHONEPE PVT LTD Merchant (7399 MCC)
2.5% Charges, 8% Supercoins, 0.2% CB. Max transaction amount of 3750. For CB redemption, do another Transaction of 3000.
If u get at least 0.3 per supercoin value, it's net zero charge plus free cc rewards. Anything more is more profitable. Best value (1:1) is from cleartrip flights bookings (Max 750 on Tuesdays) and Few 100% supercoins usage products. You can also use on Flipkart products and Gift cards for 5% extra discount, if you have Flipkart VIP. You can also use on Myntra vouchers, if you have Myntra insider, although this is 4:1 conversion since last few months.
If u don't find anything useful, redeem on Snapay at 0.25 per supercoin. That is still just about 0.6% net charges, which is least.
Ensure you get PHONEPE PVT LTD on OTP page. Anything else (Fx Mart, PHONEPE PRIVATE etc) won't give points with most cards. Sometimes it takes 25+ attempts to get this MCC. Sometimes Phonepe doesn't allow card option at all. You just need to try again after some time.
MCC is 7399 and I think only hsbc cashback has excluded this mcc so far. All other cards should give normal points. 5% for SBI Cashback, 4.8% for Magnus Burgundy, 3.33% for Infinia, 3% (6% with 3x Subscription) for Yes Reserv, 3.75% for BOB Eterna, 2.5% for BOB Snapdeal etc. HDFC Swiggy doesn't have inclusion under 5% for 7399. So just normal 1% for HDFC Swiggy.
I think Amex/Diners/Pineperks also work here. I have verified pineperks myself. I tried Amex Sapphiro and it worked fine till OTP page. On diners, it went to a blank screen, but that maybe because it's a closed card. You can try and see.