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Snapay (Credit card to Bank/Credit card Transfer) Guide
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There are plenty of threads with credit card to bank transfer. And the best one is Snapay (just check it's reviews on play store and iOS) and compare with other apps. It is best option with very low failure rates (u get option to provide some other account details in case of failure).
People keep asking me in chat. So here I am writing one detailed post on this. I have been using it since over an year and many people are using for more than that without any issues.
Prerequisites -
1. Complete Full KYC with Aadhar and PAN.
2. Register with Twid pay with reward programmes and understand their benefits. Top 3 reward programs are intermiles, zillion and supercoin.
3. Intermiles can be used to get discount on Amazon vouchers (25 discount on 500 using 61 intermiles, i mostly go with this), Purchase Amazon vouchers directly (500 voucher for 2900 intermiles) and Flight tickets (u need to keep checking regularly to get good value). It can also be used on Twid pay to pay partially at 0.25 per points (u won't get points when redeeming). There are additional vouchers when u cross intermiles tiers, which give a good boost as well In general, I rate it at 0.22rs per intermiles as a conservative estimate.
4. Payback/Zillion is similar to intermiles. U can buy Amazon vouchers at 0.25 per point from payback Gyftr (most used by me). Or It can also be used on Twid pay to pay partially at 0.25 per points (u won't get points when redeeming). In general, I rate it at 0.22rs per payback point as a conservative estimate.
5. Supercoins - Best value u get is on cleartrip (1 point is 1 rupee). It has very low capping, so it is good for small transaction of 1500-2000. Though I avoid accumulating too much now a days, as cleartrip is changing SuperCoin usage continuosly.
6. Add your bank account or credit card , in which u want payment as beneficiary under utility payments category. For credit card, account number is same as credit card number and IFSC code can be obtained from google (say search sbi credit card neft payment for sbi IFSC code). Mobile number can be anything other than urs, it doesn't send anything on that number.
Now that you understand these prerequisites, here is the payment method.
1. Go to utility payments, select beneficiary, select any purpose (general payments or credit card payment or anything else), select sender for better returns, T+1 as transaction method and Pay with rewards as payment method.
2. Ensure that u see 2.5% charges. Usually they take 3.5% charges, but often run offers with 2.5% charges. Do transaction only during offer period.
3. Login to PWR account and select Intermiles/Zillion as payment method depending on which is giving better returns. It keeps changing from 3-10% depending on offers. Divide that by 4 to calculate the value u will get.
4. Check the cashback amount also. This varies from 0.5-1.5% depending on offers.
5. In general sum of intermiles/zillion divide by 4 and cashback amount easily exceed 2%. So, effective charge will be less than 0.5%. Don't transact if it doesn't exceed that and wait for better offers.
6. Sometimes it gives pretty good offers like 0.2% net charge or even 0%, though that is a bit rare. 0.5% net charge is pretty easy to get.
7. Now use any visa/mastercard/rupay card for payment. Diners and Amex doesn't work. Some of rupay cards also don't work. You will get reward points based on utility category (4900 MCC). Any card with more than 0.5% reward rate on utility category will make it net positive return.
8. Now to use the cashback, u got in previous transaction, u need to do another transaction of minimum 1500. Repeat same process as above. SuperCoins earn option is better for this small value transaction. Don't use supercoins redeem option, that gives terrible return.
9. You may also use cashback on magicpin twidpay to buy small value vouchers without any minimum transaction criterion.
Bonus benefits -
1. You can pay credit card bill using UPI under credit card payment tab and get 1% cb (minimum amount should be 2000) in snapay wallets.
2. This can be used for 50% of convinience fee when using utility payments for same day category.
3. Same day charges are 3% and T+1 charge is 2.5%. So, in net , u r saving 1% (u need to pay 1.5% instead of 2.5%) using 1.5% from snapay wallet. So basically u r getting 0.67% return on credit card payments via UPI . Of course, this is only when u intend to use utility payments.
Transaction limits -
1. 20K per transaction, 5 transaction per day for T+1
2. 15K per transaction, 1 transaction per day for same day
In general, Snapay won't ban you for any transfer under above limits. It is literally written in their description as official method for credit card to bank transfer. They just want to be sure that transactions are genuine and there won't be any chargeback. So don't use any card which is not in ur name to avoid any payment stuck issues.
But credit card company may see it as misuse. Utility category mcc has very low mdr. In general, I feel if ur usage don't exceed 30% of credit limit, it's all fine.
I have tried to cover everything in this detailed post. Please don't PM me. Everything I know is listed already and u need to re-read, if u r not seeing something. The whole purpose of this post is to avoid those DMs😅.
If still have queries, u can ask in this post and fellow dimers will respond.
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can someone tag me if giverly load starts working again.
Pepper money rupay prepaid(free card) gives flat 1% cashback for utility transactions. No need to do KYC if you have done KYC for pine labs issued prepaid card apps earlier (eg. glide app long time back)
Can be used to load payzapp/Gosats/Giverly to use on Snapay.
@Knight11 @abhishek012
PS: adding money via debit card allowed in pepper Money
Do we get our card cashback like SBI cb while loading it into pepper money.?
How to transfer to my own account, it is saying can't send to same number.
Can i put my other phone number which is not linked to account?
TIA
Just put a different phone number , snappay doesn't do anything with phone number.
What the hell is happening with twid?
Waiting for a good offer from the last 20 days but now they reduced cashback from 0.7% to 0.6%
Not sure if they will bring a good offer anymore.
Just switch to supercoins, Do max transaction of 1875 and ignore cashback part. Even at 0.25 per supercoins, it's net 0.6% charges.
And if u r willing to take risk and wait for swiggy/Myntra redemptions at 0.5+ rates, it's way more profitable.
Updated list of Cards, which will continue to work post April, with at least 1.5% reward rates excluding redemption charges and considering 1:1 value for airmiles cards.
Utility MCC -
HDFC Infinia - 3.33% unlimited
HDFC DCB Metal - 3.33% unlimited (+2.5% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
HDFC DCB - 3.33% unlimited (+1% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
ICICI Emerald Metal - 3% upto 1000
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5% upto 833 (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
BOB HPCL - 1.67% upto 312 (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
SC Smart - 2% upto 1000
HSBC Cashback - 1.5% unlimited
Wallet MCC - (Load to payzapp wallet (5L Financial year limit) and use payzapp card on Snapay PWR)
BOB Eterna - 3.75% upto 1562 (+1% milestone)
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5% upto 833
AU LIT - 2.5% unlimited (with subscription plan)
SC Smart - 2% upto 1000
For Au lit it's 4% na ?
10x reward points and 2% cashback so 4% ?
@Knight11 SC Smart CC is devalue, right ?
See here - https://www.sc.com/in/credit-cards/smart-card...s/
Q: Are there any exclusions in 2% cashback on Online transactions?
A: Please note that for Bill Payments through Billdesk or StanChart Bill Pay, only transactions on Billers registered under the following categories will be eligible for cashback:
- Telecom
- Utilities (Electricity, Water, Gas)
No devaluation
this only means that on billdesk/ Stanchart Billpay - telecom and utility category will be eligible for cashback.
You forget to add 5% SBI Cashback credit card on Snapay trick - https://www.desidime.com/discussions/5-sbi-cash...
That's a temporary bug. I only added for utility and wallet mcc.
Slightly off topic (Debit card to Bank Transfer) -
Mobikwik -
Add money upto 199999 per day for free.
Transfer back to bank for free using Pocket UPI or wallet to bank transfer.
Mcc is wallet, so Use cards which give reward on wallet load. Millenia is 1% upto 400. Don't know about others.
Best use case is Axis Burgundy Debit card - 1% edge points (2K daily) for free, which can be converted to Airmiles at 5:4, if you have Magnus Burgundy. Only till 30th April, as devaluation is from 1st May.
2L transaction per day for 18 days though may get your account blocked 😂, so do at your own risk.
I don't know about which other debit cards gives points on wallet mcc. Check your card terms.
They recently devalue on Utility and Rent payment, Wallet is already excluded - https://campaign.axisbank.com/generic/burgundy-...
Can anyone pls explain how to use twid cash back (not super coin balance or zillion)
. I tried to recharge jio but apply coupon is not available on payment page. @Knight11
There will be minimum purchase tnc while applying that coupon. If your transaction value meets that then alone that cb appears
Prepaid card is not a debit card or credit card. It comes under corporate card.
Did twid remove 0.7% cashback?
Not getting the option to apply for a coupon from yesterday.
Yep, not showing. Just use supercoins method. Intermiles/cashback was anyway too costly these days.
Infact payment through hdfc infinia is failing continuously..what is the reason
HDFC has wisened up to this system and has blocked all payments through them. This is fixed
@Knight11 what subscription we have to take in au lit and any benefit on using it in sna pay
@Knight11 bro I have a query do snapay report transactions we do to the income tax department?
No idea. Ultimately everything is linked to PAN and can be tracked in this digital world.
@Knight11 au lit me konsa subscription Lena hai to get cashback on snapay ? Also please let us know what's the reward rate and maximum cashback on using it on snapay? Thanks in advance
I am not getting option to choose intermiles from few days. Only zillion and supercoins are showing. Earlier intermiles was showing and used many times too.
Any solution? @Knight11 @abhishek012
I have done transaction worth ₹20500 in snapay..and paid with pwr . But I didnt recieve the intermiles yet.. is there any tc changed by the twidpay for receiving the intermiles?
I have done transaction worth ₹20500 in snapay..and paid with pwr . But I didnt recieve the intermiles yet.. is there any tc changed by the twidpay for receiving the intermiles?
Looks like Intermiles are no longer credited. They will provide you a cashback voucher as compensation if you raise a ticket.
Yeah, it is not even appearing in my account. There is some issue going on. Somehow they are not able to remove it from everyone's account.
Yes I also got the intermiles in my account now...
Axis Burgundy Debit Card is really devalue on wallet and other spends ?
because t&c only mentioned about Utility and rent payment.
Mcc list covers wallets also in devaluation pdf.
They have not yet implemented it. I haven't received points even for normal debit card transaction this month.
@Knight11 intermiles gone permanently?
Do snapay mark transactions as business if we transfer from own credit card to self bank account
I have few doubts @Knight11 please comment or dm bro
Completed KYC
1) Is there any monthly limit to withdraw from snapay
2)Is there any limit per person using utility transfer
3)will Amazon ICICI pay will give 1% cashback
4)apart from utility is there way to withdraw Money (like re
nt...etc)
1. No idea, never reached such limit. Ask snapay support.
2. Same as 1.
3. Yes.
4. There is rent, fastag etc. But I never used them.
@Knight11 Is the pay with reward option gone? After selecting pay with reward it just redirects to payment getaway to select payment methods like cc, dc, upi, wallet.
Yes, they told they are working on it. No timeline on when will it be resolved.
Can pineperks rupay GC be used on snapay pwr via any route?
Lol why r u spamming everywhere. It is literally written just above ur post 🤦♂️.
Just noticed Snapay under one of the rewards program in twidpay site. Looks like Snapay is launching some reward program or maybe integrating it's existing reward points on cc payment to pwr. Not live yet, as it shows zero balance for me. Hopefully something exciting comes soon.
One request : This trick has been there from long time if you were using Snapay but it has now become more public. Plz don't abuse this trick and use moderately so that it works for longer time. Otherwise banks will start declining transactions for this merchant also, specially twid pay(Axis flipkart card is already blocking it).
This tricks are better to be sent in DMs because Youtubers will definitely viral them for few views. @Knight11, @abhishek012 I think now most dimers have seen it, it is better to hide this post.
Nothing lasts forever.
And this is not a trick. It's a legitimate method to pay on snapay. You are paying to get back something.
And if u don't believe in sharing and want to enjoy it urself, why join this forum😂. The whole purpose of forum is sharing, otherwise it will be dead.
I will like 100 people using something for 1 day rather than 1 people for 100 days😄.
Cards with at least 1.5% reward rates excluding redemption charges and considering 1:1 value for airmiles cards.
Utility MCC -
Axis Atlas - 4% (+1% milestone)
Axis Ace - 2%
HDFC Infinia - 3.33%
HDFC DCB Metal - 3.33% (+2.5% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
HDFC DCB - 3.33% (+1% milestone) (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
ICICI Emerald Metal - 3%
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5% (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
BOB HPCL - 1.67% (Doesn't work for Snapay PWR)
IDFC Wealth (not for Snapay 4900) - 2.5%
IDFC Select (not for Snapay 4900) - 2%
AU LIT - 2.5%
SC Smart - 2%
Wallet MCC - (Load to payzapp wallet and use payzapp card on Snapay PWR)
ICICI Emerald Metal - 3%
BOB Eterna - 3.75% (+1% milestone)
BOB Snapdeal - 2.5%
IDFC Wealth - 2.5%
IDFC Select - 2%
AU LIT - 2.5%
SC Smart - 2%
Just because people are getting confused, I am mentioning again in one post. First time users, Read first post for more information. And don't DM me😂.
Select T+1 -> Pay with Rewards -> Supercoins Earn -> Phonepe wallet -> PHONEPE PVT LTD Merchant (7399 MCC)
2.5% Charges, 8% Supercoins, 0.2% CB. Max transaction amount of 3750. For CB redemption, do another Transaction of 3000.
If u get at least 0.3 per supercoin value, it's net zero charge plus free cc rewards. Anything more is more profitable. Best value (1:1) is from cleartrip flights bookings (Max 750 on Tuesdays) and Few 100% supercoins usage products. You can also use on Flipkart products and Gift cards for 5% extra discount, if you have Flipkart VIP. You can also use on Myntra vouchers, if you have Myntra insider, although this is 4:1 conversion since last few months.
If u don't find anything useful, redeem on Snapay at 0.25 per supercoin. That is still just about 0.6% net charges, which is least.
Ensure you get PHONEPE PVT LTD on OTP page. Anything else (Fx Mart, PHONEPE PRIVATE etc) won't give points with most cards. Sometimes it takes 25+ attempts to get this MCC. Sometimes Phonepe doesn't allow card option at all. You just need to try again after some time.
MCC is 7399 and I think only hsbc cashback has excluded this mcc so far. All other cards should give normal points. 5% for SBI Cashback, 4.8% for Magnus Burgundy, 3.33% for Infinia, 3% (6% with 3x Subscription) for Yes Reserv, 3.75% for BOB Eterna, 2.5% for BOB Snapdeal etc. HDFC Swiggy doesn't have inclusion under 5% for 7399. So just normal 1% for HDFC Swiggy.
I think Amex/Diners/Pineperks also work here. I have verified pineperks myself. I tried Amex Sapphiro and it worked fine till OTP page. On diners, it went to a blank screen, but that maybe because it's a closed card. You can try and see.