All you should know about health insurance before buying
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excellent Topic, I am still reading this post slowly to get into detail understanding.
My friend had recommendation for Citibank Group policy for me individual.
https://www.online.citibank.co.in/products-serv...
According to him
I have to pay around 5k per year
I dont have any pre existiing disease so dont have to worry for 4 year waiting
every year 10% in coverage if no claim
I dont know if this has CoPay.
Preparing my own checklist from the all the 19 points above which are applicable.
meanwhile if someone has any experience with Royal Sundaram insurance.
link is wrong of citi bank credit card application
Hi, I am using a costly policy of reliance since last many years. My renewal date is this 26 may. How to port to sbi sanjeevni arogya insurance policy using the same policy?
@devbehel172
My ‘mamaji’ is a senior citizen of 65 years
3-4 years ago he bought SBI general Insurance for the entire family but couldn’t renew it due to financial pressure
**last year, he bought a mediclaim policy of New India Assurance Co ltd especially for Punjab National Bank customers
This year the policy suddenly got discontinued due to the non-existence of tie up between the two companies(No tie up no policy, !)
After investing 15000 approx in premium for 7 Lakh cover, now mamaji is suddenly at a loss
He is aged and cannot even take SBI Insurance. Also the premium gone it is a financial burden( he worked as a clerk/accountant in a Pvt Company for 25-30 years)
Question:
1) What are mamji’s option?
2) Can he complain to IRDAI and get a refund or second year migration benefits of similar policy?
3) As he is not covered under PM Arogya Yojana shoud he wait of sanjeevani policy? he doesnt want to risk his money again by trusting PNB’s tie up or New India Assuance’s tie ups, what advice can I give him or help him lead a worry free life.
Advice Eagerly awaited
Bro very sorry to hear as i and some peopel already mentioned in the group this is the major reason people dont take group policy of banks if possible dimers take only Group policy of such bank and try to take policy of such bank where this type of tie ups of Insurance company issue you will not face in future and please people above 55 years age kindly don’t take risk and go for for GHI policy of banks lije pnb,union bank,allhabad merged ,uco ,etc bank of baroda,OBC so as to save some money as it might be risky in future.
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If you want insurance continuity benefit without break in either take policy from New india insurance or as PNB might got tie up with sone others Insurance company may be they can provide you some options with continuity benefit Insurance,
Insurance co or bank has to provide the client a option before discontinuing any policy
No refund ,it can only be provided if policy discontinued in less than year
You can call me anytime for more Guidance
@devbehel172
My ‘mamaji’ is a senior citizen of 65 years
3-4 years ago he bought SBI general Insurance for the entire family but couldn’t renew it due to financial pressure
**last year, he bought a mediclaim policy of New India Assurance Co ltd especially for Punjab National Bank customers
This year the policy suddenly got discontinued due to the non-existence of tie up between the two companies(No tie up no policy, !)
After investing 15000 approx in premium for 7 Lakh cover, now mamaji is suddenly at a loss
He is aged and cannot even take SBI Insurance. Also the premium gone it is a financial burden( he worked as a clerk/accountant in a Pvt Company for 25-30 years)
Question:
1) What are mamji’s option?
2) Can he complain to IRDAI and get a refund or second year migration benefits of similar policy?
3) As he is not covered under PM Arogya Yojana shoud he wait of sanjeevani policy? he doesnt want to risk his money again by trusting PNB’s tie up or New India Assuance’s tie ups, what advice can I give him or help him lead a worry free life.
Advice Eagerly awaited
@drjpatwa
Sad to hear that.
1) Option – Check which insurance company is ready to give policy at this age. Majority will have 20% co-pay. So he has to calculate risk reward ratio. Even after paying 35k every year with waiting for 3 years for pre-existing diseases & still pay 20% co-pay, whether its worth or not.
If I will come across any such policy I will let u know.
2) Do complaint in IRDA but I don’t know how much effective that will be. Bank tied up policy were very famous last decade. Bank of Baroda issued lacs of policy for Customers at dirt cheap price with National Insurance (Imagine premium of just 7500 for 5lac). It worked for almost 7 years & then they deny to renew bcoz of unavailable price. Even majority private players deny to accept porting of such policy.
Customers were the real sufferer. I too had Bank Of india tie up policy which I could able to port.
You can ask for refund but due to lapse in policy, I don’t think existing policy benefit u will get.
3) No idea
I am always saying don’t take any insurance just because it is cheap.
Here many people are getting attracted by Sbi Arogya Plus policy. Here is my detail analysis on it. Which I already shared with one of dimer friend.
For younger age private players has edge over Sbi plan. While in old age Sbi plan has edge.
E. G. Take family of 3 person. 2 adult, 1 kid with age of adult 31.
Sbi plan will cost you 10500 for 3 lacs while other private players charging same or less.
But in other private players within 2-5 years (apollo 2 years, max 5 years), ur Sum assured will be double from 3 lac to 6 lac due to NCB. Also from 1st year onwards, others give restoration benefit (ofcourse will some T&C). This features are not there in Sbi plan.
So that will give you maximum 3 lac SI + 3 restoration benefit from 1st year & extra 3 lac NCB after few years at same cost.
Now decide which one is better here?
Also they are doing settlement with TPA, which is drawback compare to other players.
They are covering 142 day care procedure, others are covering 500+ & some doesn’t give list & says we cover all day care procedure.
Maternity benefit which is there in SBI to attract Customer is, only till OPD limit of 500rs.
Sorry we are providing policy at 8927 inc taxes not 10500 and i already posted in this discussion this plan is best for pepole above 50 years age
there are other best options too like SBI GHI policy,and sbi arogya Sanjeevani policy for younger aged people with less premium same features at best premiun by Known Brand and OPD option and cover depends according to age
And maternity and restoration benits and other benefits there is Arogya premiere for Premium or privileged customers like you who can pay premium and Normally Dr sahab
more than 70 percent in india Dont take any medical insurance may be due to awareness, financial burdens,and when they are aged and diseases they try to take Policy at that time most insurance companies are not offering one and if they offer they ask premiun of above 25 to 30 thousand which is very high and they are not able to pay like i said Some Insurance company offers policy with cheapest premiun so that the persons will not suffer and exhaust there hars earned money in paying premium and hospital bills and for them this is the best option and if you have any other kindly provide and help people and kindly dont give options where customer gets a huge hole in their pockets as These Insurance companies also pay……….. Upto 40 percent……………and also pay very Huge advertising costs so that (koi toh Murga Fasse…..) from whom will they take……
So dimers be wise compare and buy,best policy and this group is created to Save money of people and provide best option
Be wise choose wise i can also help you to provide discounts in any insurance company in which you want to take policy and iam working in Insurance industry since 12 years.
claim incured ratio of SbI was 52% in FY17-18. Which rises to 82% in Fy19-20. Which says they are stable currently but increase in claim amount significantly in last 1 yr.
My assumption – They have started operation in 2009. Due to brand of sbi & their bank network, they were able to issue policy from beginning. So premium collection is good & claim doesn’t come quickly from all. Once their population goes in old age (bcoz they are not providing any policy to diseased person, not even hypertension!!!) claim will rise & at that time their claim incured ratio will deteriorate & they will be force to rate hike (that will be massive 100-300%) but that is atleast 5 year away, what I think.
Also Sbi is soon going to list Sbi general insurance company to stock exchange, as soon as next year. So, they are not here for charity. May be this might be also reason to show higher sales & attract Customer to show good balance sheet before going for IPO to get higher valuation.
Also 3 lac SI is not enough. Ultimately you have to take super-top policy. If it is issued by SBI, then fine. (I don’t know sbi is providing super top-up plan or not. Top-up is useless)
If you go with other company, then again administrative problems will be there. New insurer will ask you for proof of limit exhausted of base policy & all documents related to disease bcoz they are unaware about it.
While SBI does it with TPA, which will take more time. So this might take 1-2 days more.
Health insurance is not like 2-wheeler policy which we are forcefully taking & usually we never claim on it so only lowest price we should look for.
Health insurance we are definitely going to use in lifetime. So only pricing shouldn’t be prime reason to choose.
you are right bro,you should compare the features before buying any policy.
@drjpatwa Can u give an advice summary? I am confused what are you trying to explain?
I enquired, Arogya Sanjeevani Plan (of any insurance company bcoz features are same as per IRDA) will be best for ur mamaji. As premium will low in it compare to other plan.
Only thing is that it has 5% Co-pay & room rent capping.
But it will be as per his need.
Maximum entry age is 65 years. So check for eligibility as per his birthday.
I hope this helps u.
Just think, what good points u find in sbi, which are good compare to other insurer (apart from lower pricing)
Also note that at age 55+ age, porting is not easy. New insurer are avoiding such risky people in porting. So choose insurer wisely.
SBI plan says that fixed premium but below that they write that at any point they can go with IRDA for revised pricing, which applies for all insurer.
I am sure that after 5 years after getting good client base when their ICR is will be more than 100%, they will hike one time 100-300% in premium !!!
What will you do at that time? Even porting won’t be possible at old age.
Ok ji
I just wanted to help the fellow.
maybe its a “no country for old men”
Disclaimer: I am doctor by profession & saw lots of mis-selling of Financial products in the past. Then people gets frustrated at the time of claim because of unawareness about T&C of their own policy.
So sole purpose of creating this thread to make people aware about T&C of policy & make easy comparison of all features of different policy. I have taken sub agency on My family name.
I can sell & give discount for purchasing all company ‘s policy including SBI. (so don’t think I am biased)
Just analyse wisely all points & then purchase policy…
Sir please provide me premiun want policy for my parents aged 64 and 61 age please Mr puneet mentioned premium of 8927 for 3 lakhs suminsured with discount.
Can you provide me options and comparision i can pay max upto 15000 max premium more than that i cannot afford
please provide option with comparision to arogya plus policy and one more thing will you provide Discount or will return Payout as some agents you have pay full premium now after one month i will return you some money
please advise accordingly with comparision.
Thanks for the post. Its really important for someone like me who only get confused and listened to agents.
There was a problem regarding health insurance of my late grandma. At the time of her hospitalization in ICU, the insurance company refused to give the money saying she has a heart disease which they said that we hid it or some bullshit!
But she had regular check up and annual whole body check up but never had any heart problems.
I wanted to fight it out but everyone else gave up when grandma’s health deteriorated and passed away after 14 days.
Sorry to hear
some agents hides facts and give wrong policy or information and Policy options
so as to Fill there pockets One person recently came in to Sbi bank he got policy of Star health Caridiac care and he paid approx 30000 premium to agent as agent told him as he is a heart patient and had STUNTS and agent told him your pre existing illiness will be covered from first month and he came to me i showed him policy wordings in which clearly mentioned waiting periods and at the time of renewal i provided him GHI policy. premium was below 6000 rs
some agents do this type of things for Some Bucks and incentives schemes so please Be aware and read policy wordings and free look up period also there in Health policy So compare and buy
Role of Insurance Regulatory and Development Authority (IRDA) To protect the interest of and ensure just treatment to insurance policy holders. To encourage and ensure the systematic growth of the insurance industry so as to benefit the common man and help in bringing economic growth.
All insurance companies have to take approval to change any premium and disontinue any product so ultimately
IRDA will protect the interest of and ensure just treatment to insurance policy holders.
Some body sent this on whatsapp dont know the source sent as received
Above report is true or false
see they are burning holes in people pockets….
thnks for great insight
It’s unfortunate & extremely disappointing for me to hear allegations done on me (That I being biased, agent etc.).
I don’t want more arguments.
Earlier I thought I will put here health insurance comparison google spread sheet made by me, so that all can take benefit of it. However, after those incidence, now I have decided i won’t put that sheet here openly. Those dimer who want it, can write down your request here. I will pm link. I have already shared link to few dimers & getting their suggestions also.
Note: Currently I have done comparison of Aditya birla, apollo, max bupa, Hdfc ergo, Sbi plan. Work is going on for religare & Star health. Also I have added my own scoring system for comparision. If you are not happy with it leave it or make it by your own (But don’t blame me for being biased). I will add more companies & PSU also in future for comparison as & when time permits me to do so.
You are doing things for greater good. Don’t listen to all blah blah.
Any recommendations for Critical Illness Policy ?? Should cover major critical illnesses. SA 25L+
Also pls share the link of Google sheet.
Any recommendations for Critical Illness Policy ?? Should cover major critical illnesses. SA 25L+
Very informative and useful thread. Hard work done by OP. Will definitely help many people.
Great thread my question, term insurance vs health insurance which one should be priority?
Can u suggest me health insurance plan for me and my wife. Age 29 and 27 respectively. I live in a small town. No multispecilaity hospital nearby. We got recently married on 1st feb. I am govt employee. Is there any health insurance plan which also cover term life insurance plan!
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I also have parents 65 and 56 years old but i think covering them will make plan costlier. The medical expense can be reimbursed with my hovt office too but it takes time and also they pass the bill on govt rates. Me, my wife and my mother doesn’t have any medical history where my father is heart patient.
Kg for thread
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@devbehel172 is very helpful and genuine person and not a fraud (some people here are having doubt). I am porting my policy from oriental to SBI now and he is helping me in all the process. And also he has valid email id which only employee can get , so don’t doubt for a second. This Arogya plus policy is really good , all should once check it.