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I am not pro or against any party but I would like people to choose with a open mind.. all this advertisement campaigns and ‘Andhi Bhakti of a Person/ Party’ has hampered people’s ability to think clearly
I have already voted in the Delhi region, but I would like to ask only a few questions primarily to AAP supporters who have gone wild to post endless posts in this section.. which were primarily Copy-Paste from other AAP supporting forums..
1. Who is the ruling party of the Country for last 10 Years? Is your nation wide/ online campaign targeted any of their ill policies which has made the economy dip to such a pathetic state?
2. Do you really think that only by a single bill, all the economic problems in the country would be solved??
3. I personally never been to Gujraat, but I have lived for too long in Delhi where you formed the Government, in which I voted for you..
My few questions against I vote I gave you in assembly elections :
a) Where was the money for the Electricity bill reduction routed from? The government budget doesn’t have so much money left for unplanned expenditure
in the last quarter??
c) Do you believe our President is a Congress Pawn or Constitutional representative of India ?? His representative LG of Delhi prohibits a bill to be presented in assembly, but yet you wanted to present it with out his consent…??
d) You threatened the Republic Day parade ( the point when you lost your respect completely in my eyes)because you wanted to suspend Police officer, whom you couldn’t suspend yourself?? Somehow, I feel that there was no difference between Azam khan suspending a police officer for loosing his cows because he had the power to do so and you going on a dharna to make similar thing happen??
e) Another joke would be sting operations in delhi to curb corruption…When a sting is done on your party workers you reply was – " Humne unse baat kar li hai aur tape dekh liya hai usme aisa kuch nahi hai "… so the officers on whom you encouraged people to do sting could also answer in the similar way.. or Is it that only you have the right to tag people as Honest or Dishonest ??
4) Coming back to Lok Sabha Elections.. you said no Delhi MLA would be given a ticket in Lok Sabha.. .And guess what you didn’t .. just the same way you didn’t take support from congress for forming the government after swearing on you children’s head??
5) The selection of candidate was to be done democratically ( I read it some where), but one how a reporter who joined the party 3 days ago got ticket from Chndani Chowk??
6)Is the media as far as your party is concerned is of two types : Sold or Krantikari ???
Answer Of Why Aap Targeting Modi Is
If Dog Bark Against Rats Or Birds In Farm Group Of Sheep Will Not Give Damm To Him And Ignore Him
But If Same Dog Bark Against Lion Than Group Of Sheep Will Say Ohh This Is Special Dog Lets Follow Him
In Delhi Sheela Dixit Was Popular So He Started Abusing Her And Blame Her Now You Will Not Hear Single Word Name Sheela
In Nation Vise Modi Is Populer So He Started Barking Him…..
I Think If He Go In Us He Will Say Obama Is Agent Of Microsoft And Apple
They Call Themself Aam Aadmi But See Who Are Standing For Aam Aadmi
Gul Panag Who Was Celebrity Ones Now She Is Standing For Poor People
Ashutosh Nothing Say About Him Just Chk Video Where He Have To Run Away From Public On Street
Prashant Bhushan There Is Nothing To Say Lots Of Property Owner In Diff Place
Hardly 20 To 30 Ppl Are Comes From Poor Class Or Middle Class Family Who Got Ticket
Don’t Know How They Will Treat Person On Road Or Street Who Earn Daily Roti N Sabji
Bjp Also Same And Congress Also Same
Question Is If You Are Same As Other Party Why You Ppl Calling Self Leader Of Public
No Leader In Aap Is Belongs To Poor Or Middle Class Family All Are
When They Between In Public They Will Show You They Are Like Poor And Middle Class When They In Private Life Nothing Less Than Congressi And Bjp Netas
@ Wolf,
Logical baat likh di na?
10-15 copy paste aate hi honge.
AAP ki ideology yahi hai. Copy paste. Apni akkal hai nahi.
I want to clarify here that neither am I a Modi bhakt nor a Kejriwal / AAP hater. I feel it takes guts and steely resolve to challenge the multiple decades old political system in India which AAP had done phenomenally well till Delhi elections. But I guess that where the best part ends. His ability to govern and to showcase what he is capable of as a CM was in questions and by resigning he completely changed the whole perception of people like me who still feel he ran away. And DAN please don’t start copy pasting some random article to change my view on this. Thanks.
With regards to governance, I believe no system is perfect and so would be Gujarat. We must all remember that Gujarat also has innate entrepreneurial abilities in its people because of which if given a right platform it will flourish. The same need not be necessarily true for whole of India. There would be crony capitalism along the way (which there is with favoritism to Adani, Ambani etc.) but some ways to resolve it would be getting more seamless information technology and ground level access to people. I believe Modi is capable of this and has intentions of doing so. All said he has proved some capabilities in Gujarat and that is an important point to consider.
If Congress is looked at, they too have performed to an extent and have respected leaders, but the rampant corruption is overshadowing everything they have done. Honestly Rahul does not inspire in any manner whatsoever and hence Congress currently is out of the equation.
Ultimately when it boils down to a vote between Modi v/s Kejriwal, the history of governance and atleast improvement in some social parameters in Gujarat do inspire hope that some portion of it can be repeated in India if there is an intention to do it. Kejriwal biggest blunder of quitting has jeopardized any hopes he may have of winning even 5 years hence as he and AAP would forever be remembered for the one single act – Bhaag Gaye!!!
I hope a rational decision is what all of us take while voting considering the pros and cons.
I request everyone here to not indulge in personal attacks and post random snippets without any thought process.
The above post is not to hurt but only outline and also indirectly indulge in a debate with like minded individuals.
Thanks for reading.
Jackal wrote:
I want to clarify here that neither am I a Modi bhakt nor a Kejriwal / AAP hater. I feel it takes guts and steely resolve to challenge the multiple decades old political system in India which AAP had done phenomenally well till Delhi elections. But I guess that where the best part ends. His ability to govern and to showcase what he is capable of as a CM was in questions and by resigning he completely changed the whole perception of people like me who still feel he ran away. And DAN please don’t start copy pasting some random article to change my view on this. Thanks.
With regards to governance, I believe no system is perfect and so would be Gujarat. We must all remember that Gujarat also has innate entrepreneurial abilities in its people because of which if given a right platform it will flourish. The same need not be necessarily true for whole of India. There would be crony capitalism along the way (which there is with favoritism to Adani, Ambani etc.) but some ways to resolve it would be getting more seamless information technology and ground level access to people. I believe Modi is capable of this and has intentions of doing so. All said he has proved some capabilities in Gujarat and that is an important point to consider.
If Congress is looked at, they too have performed to an extent and have respected leaders, but the rampant corruption is overshadowing everything they have done. Honestly Rahul does not inspire in any manner whatsoever and hence Congress currently is out of the equation.
Ultimately when it boils down to a vote between Modi v/s Kejriwal, the history of governance and atleast improvement in some social parameters in Gujarat do inspire hope that some portion of it can be repeated in India if there is an intention to do it. Kejriwal biggest blunder of quitting has jeopardized any hopes he may have of winning even 5 years hence as he and AAP would forever be remembered for the one single act – Bhaag Gaye!!!
I hope a rational decision is what all of us take while voting considering the pros and cons.
I request everyone here to not indulge in personal attacks and post random snippets without any thought process.
The above post is not to hurt but only outline and also indirectly indulge in a debate with like minded individuals.
Thanks for reading.
+1, Good post..
Jackal wrote:
And DAN please don’t start copy pasting some random article to change my view on this. Thanks.
my posts are not to change your view or anyone else’s view. the posts are only to inform the facts. its upto them if they want to change the view or not.
AAP would forever be remembered for the one single act – Bhaag Gaye!!!
the same old cribbing again. ?
Exposing BJP double speak on AAP resignation!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4931831274…
What would have BJP people said if they were there at the time of Ramayana, Raja Harishchandra and Lal Bahadur Shastri? Arvind Kejriwal’s speech about resignation from Delhi Government because of our principle of non-compromise so that AAP can come back with full majority and pass both Janlokpal and Swaraj bills.
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अगर बीजेपी वाले रामायण, राजा हरिशचन्द्र या लाल बहादुर शास्त्री के वक़्त होते तो क्या कहते? अरविन्द केजरीवाल दिल्ली सरकार से उसूलो के कारण इस्तीफे देने के बारे में बोलते हुए ताकि आम आदमी पार्टी बहुमत के साथ वापिस आ सके और जनलोकपाल और स्वराज बिल बिना किसे समझौते के पारित कर सके|
can you guys please leave dan? most attacks are now getting personal and to settle some scores looks like. please be specific on ideology and policies of whom you all support and don’t fight. after election modi or kejriwal won’t come to help you but Dan might being just like you.
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Watched this video posted above…
and also the one where she expressed her opinion on Juvenile act / claim.
Such a nice lady she is and what real good work these guys are doing on ground level, we are just talkers and chatters, really an eye opener!
marketdimer wrote:
can you guys please leave dan? most attacks are now getting personal and to settle some scores looks like. please be specific on ideology and policies of whom you all support and don’t fight. after election modi or kejriwal won’t come to help you but Dan might being just like you.
well said bro…
marketdimer wrote:
can you guys please leave dan? most attacks are now getting personal and to settle some scores looks like. please be specific on ideology and policies of whom you all support and don’t fight. after election modi or kejriwal won’t come to help you but Dan might being just like you.
+1 , Don’t let “Mat-bhed” to become “Man-bhed” …….Difference of opinion is good for democracy ………
Healthy Debate And Copy Paste..
Even I believe that mostly Kejriwal is Targeting Modi. May Be Modi Is big competitor then congress . .
@Dan Bro I Am Living In Gujarat From almost 21 years and i have seen modi’s last ten years how he had developed this state so no doubt in that u can ask anyone who is living in Gujarat.There were too many riots in Ahmadabad Before Modi Came. So I Believe In Modi That He Can Make The Change Instead Of Running From His Duty.
sdyado wrote:
Healthy Debate And Copy Paste..
Even I believe that mostly Kejriwal is Targeting Modi. May Be Modi Is big competitor then congress . .@Dan Bro I Am Living In Gujarat From almost 21 years and i have seen modi’s last ten years how he had developed this state so no doubt in that u can ask anyone who is living in Gujarat.There were too many riots in Ahmadabad Before Modi Came. So I Believe In Modi That He Can Make The Change Instead Of Running From His Duty.
I told him many times but let him do his work and let we as a citizen do our duty of voting may the best win abusing anyone will not solve problems
sdyado wrote:
Healthy Debate And Copy Paste..
Even I believe that mostly Kejriwal is Targeting Modi. May Be Modi Is big competitor then congress . .
@Dan Bro I Am Living In Gujarat From almost 21 years and i have seen modi’s last ten years how he had developed this state so no doubt in that u can ask anyone who is living in Gujarat.There were too many riots in Ahmadabad Before Modi Came. So I Believe In Modi That He Can Make The Change Instead Of Running From His Duty.
bhai no one doubts a part of Gujarat is developed and if you compare it with Uttar pradesh in both riots as well as development than both places said development took place or riots have stopped. muzaffarnagar being exception UP had riots every month not long ago. people have become educated and liberal and until someone with staunch and fascist ideology from either side adds fuel in fire no sane person would love to kill his brother from other religion. so riots not happening in Gujarat is not big deal riots doesn’t happen anywhere in india now and I hope Gujarat is still in India. for development we have to compare apple with apple and oranges with oranges. comparing Vadodara with Lakhimpur is as bad as comparing saurashtra with noida.
I request you to please read manifesto of the bjp. can it assure bringing down inflation? NO. does it says anything about black money in foreign banks? NO. modi promises handling inflation with special fund. Indian inflation is hugely related to fuel inflation and not internal food prices. tomorrow god forbids $100 crude becomes $120 this special fund will become joke. for black money he talks on making task force. has he got guts to catch black money in india? why doesn’t he speak on money parked in Indian reality or crony capitalism ever? black money in india is dozen times more to what Swiss bank has. task force can challenge Swiss government? well only modi follower can believe it.
india is developed outside Gujarat too, India is peace loving outside Gujarat too.
Jackal wrote:
I want to clarify here that neither am I a Modi bhakt nor a Kejriwal / AAP hater.
Honesty khatam, Khel khatam
marketdimer wrote:
sdyado wrote:
Healthy Debate And Copy Paste..
Even I believe that mostly Kejriwal is Targeting Modi. May Be Modi Is big competitor then congress . .
@Dan Bro I Am Living In Gujarat From almost 21 years and i have seen modi’s last ten years how he had developed this state so no doubt in that u can ask anyone who is living in Gujarat.There were too many riots in Ahmadabad Before Modi Came. So I Believe In Modi That He Can Make The Change Instead Of Running From His Duty.
bhai no one doubts a part of Gujarat is developed and if you compare it with Uttar pradesh in both riots as well as development than both places said development took place or riots have stopped. muzaffarnagar being exception UP had riots every month not long ago. people have become educated and liberal and until someone with staunch and fascist ideology from either side adds fuel in fire no sane person would love to kill his brother from other religion. so riots not happening in Gujarat is not big deal riots doesn’t happen anywhere in india now and I hope Gujarat is still in India. for development we have to compare apple with apple and oranges with oranges. comparing Vadodara with Lakhimpur is as bad as comparing saurashtra with noida.I request you to please read manifesto of the bjp. can it assure bringing down inflation? NO. does it says anything about black money in foreign banks? NO. modi promises handling inflation with special fund. Indian inflation is hugely related to fuel inflation and not internal food prices. tomorrow god forbids $100 crude becomes $120 this special fund will become joke. for black money he talks on making task force. has he got guts to catch black money in india? why doesn’t he speak on money parked in Indian reality or crony capitalism ever? black money in india is dozen times more to what Swiss bank has. task force can challenge Swiss government? well only modi follower can believe it.
india is developed outside Gujarat too, India is peace loving outside Gujarat too.
Then In My Opinion Kejriwal Is not a solution for this time.Hopefully For Next Elections.
theolddimer wrote:
I am not pro or against any party but I would like people to choose with a open mind.. all this advertisement campaigns and ‘Andhi Bhakti of a Person/ Party’ has hampered people’s ability to think clearly
I have already voted in the Delhi region, but I would like to ask only a few questions primarily to AAP supporters
Bhai, well i do respect you for your neutral stand but i would like to know your such type of questions against congress/BJP or raga/feku ?
There are people who vote for modi for his development track records, some people vote him as an alternative for congress, some vote him becoz of hindutva.
Trust me not a single reason to vote for Pappu. The way he shows his confidence in interviews looks fake. Where the hell was he for past 10 years ??
Congress has never been so nervous, Its the end of congress this month, becoz once Modi holds the chair there is no coming back for congress. Trust me this will happen and easily too.
@DAN
I see you are waiting for answers for dozen of Q’s from the BJP supporters. Honestly you wont get answers here and there is no right person here to get the answers for you. Why dont you write a letter straight to Rajnath singh or your local BJP leader? I did write a letter to local AAP when i felt my donation to AAP was the biggest mistake in my life. Or why dont you use RTI ? Common, your favorite Kejrwal is the biggest fan of RTI. Being a AAP bhakt why dont you follow him? Didnt they teach you how to use them?
political discussion pr khoob sare threads he, har thread ki ek hi khani modi vs kejriwal. recently Mulayam Singh gave a statement about the relaxtion on rape cases, nobody talked about. Jis cheej ko discuss krna chaiye use koi nhi krta. Abhi book publish hui he Accidental Prime Minister uss pr discuss kro aur please modi vs kejriwal ko chido. jise jisko vote dena he usko do. 16 may ko pta chal jayega ki kiski traf rujhan he public ka.
itsddpanda974 wrote:
political discussion pr khoob sare threads he, har thread ki ek hi khani modi vs kejriwal. recently Mulayam Singh gave a statement about the relaxtion on rape cases, nobody talked about. Jis cheej ko discuss krna chaiye use koi nhi krta. Abhi book publish hui he Accidental Prime Minister uss pr discuss kro aur please modi vs kejriwal ko chido. jise jisko vote dena he usko do. 16 may ko pta chal jayega ki kiski traf rujhan he public ka.
+1
itsddpanda974 wrote:
political discussion pr khoob sare threads he, har thread ki ek hi khani modi vs kejriwal. recently Mulayam Singh gave a statement about the relaxtion on rape cases, nobody talked about. Jis cheej ko discuss krna chaiye use koi nhi krta. Abhi book publish hui he Accidental Prime Minister uss pr discuss kro aur please modi vs kejriwal ko chido. jise jisko vote dena he usko do. 16 may ko pta chal jayega ki kiski traf rujhan he public ka.
I do have the same opinion, but our AAP bhakts want to somehow associate Kejriwal with Modi name. You know free publicity milta hai. The more Modi vs kejri talk, the more exposure for Kejri, Nice strategy for exposure though.
This man promised to fight and throw the ruling govt, and now somehow wants to stop the opposition party from ruling.
Jaise ek chota bacha kuch shararat krta he aur use mna kro to wo aur krta he. aur agr aap kuch nhi khoge to wo khud thodi der baad apne aap shant ho jata he. same case here. Let them do whatever they like, don’t give priority to those things they will stop it eventually.
itsddpanda974 wrote:
Jaise ek chota bacha kuch shararat krta he aur use mna kro to wo aur krta he. aur agr aap kuch nhi khoge to wo khud thodi der baad apne aap shant ho jata he. same case here. Let them do whatever they like, don’t give priority to those things they will stop it eventually.
+1 baccha jaisa
@ DAN
Few questions at a time. Just posting info which is readily available on internet, various sites.
And I’m not Modi fan or ‘Bhakt’ the way you say it however you look like fanatic follower of Mr. Kejriwal. Which I have no issues with.
Please read if you understand English and remember internet will answer all your questions, may be its about Mr. Kejriwal or Modi or even Mr. Rahul Gandhi.
1) The AAP chief alleged that land was being forcibly taken away from farmers in Gujarat to be given to corporates.
Mr Modi’s government has rubbished this as “false propaganda” by the Aam Aadmi Party. It said, “The government’s land acquisition policy has come in for praise from even the Supreme Court. There has been no forcible or unfair acquisition of any farmer’s land and the compensation given to the farmers is based on current market prices.” It stressed that “the acquisition policy of the state government is fair, just and transparent.”
2) Mr Kejriwal alleged at the Varanasi rally that over 5,000 farmers have committed suicide in Gujarat over crop failure in the last 10 years.
The Modi government said, “This is a blatant lie. During his visit to Gujarat, Kejriwal had claimed that 800 farmers had committed suicide in the last 10 years and now at the Varanasi rally, the figure has gone to over 5,000. This shows the blatant falsehood… The fact is only one farmer has committed suicide due to crop failure in the last 10 years.”
3) Arvind Kejriwal said at his Varanasi rally that if the BJP comes to power, small kirana shops will have to shut down because of the party’s policy of Foreign Direct Investment in retail.
The Gujarat government said, “It’s the BJP’s stated policy… that the party is against FDI in retail.”
4) Mr Kejriwal alleged that 60,000 small-scale units have shut down in Gujarat.
Mr Modi’s government has retorted, “Of the 5.1 lakh small and medium units, over 95 per cent are working with efficient capacity.”
freebaba wrote:
2) Mr Kejriwal alleged at the Varanasi rally that over 5,000 farmers have committed suicide in Gujarat over crop failure in the last 10 years.
The Modi government said, “This is a blatant lie. During his visit to Gujarat, Kejriwal had claimed that 800 farmers had committed suicide in the last 10 years and now at the Varanasi rally, the figure has gone to over 5,000. This shows the blatant falsehood… The fact is only one farmer has committed suicide due to crop failure in the last 10 years.”
The BJP rebuttal claiming the state of Gujarat has made “excellent arrangement for infrastructure and inputs” that have “been able to avoid farmer sucides” is shockingly tragic and removed from the data available. Below is the data from the National Crime Records Bureau of farmer suicides with links to the official page of the web site. This is the only authentic data for farmer suicides for the country. On what data the BJP based it’s press release or the Modi Govt it’s claims we are keen to see.
Why I Will Now Not Vote BJP
POSTED BY MAHESHWER PERI ON APR 09, 2014 AT 19:03 IST http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=…
I was an undecided voter. I was exploring my options. UPA II did not deserve another chance. Modi personally never gave me good vibes. Blame the publicity, but I never saw any compassion in him, even in BJP posters. But BJP was still an alternative because AAP was not fit and ready to govern, at least for five more years. I had a lot of issues with AAP. So I was veering towards BJP despite my discomfiture. We still have to make a choice and NOTA is not an option for me. I wanted to vote for stability. For me, Gujarat is one of the better governed states. I also did not want a Baba, Amma, Behenji, Netaji, Didi or Bhayyaji to be the next Prime Minister or even interfere in governance.
As I kept expressing myself without bias on Facebook and elsewhere, the Modi fans went after me. They were organized, belligerent and at times scary. For me, AAP was a 3% party and least likely to make an impact. The attacks continued. Many questioned my intelligence and a few even my integrity. Last night, I analyzed few people who took it on themselves in leading this charge—the hardcore Modi fans (I personally don’t think there is any BJP left). And what I found was revealing. Throughout the posts, I saw hatred, criticism or trivialization. No serious discourse based on facts and reasoning. Liberal use of epithets like “Sickular”, “Paid Media”, “Khan-gressi”, “Pakistani Agent”, “Traitor”, “ISI Agent”, “CIA Agent”, “Saint Topiwal”, “Fakeriwal”, “Aaptard” was common. The name calling was personal and perverse.
I encourage each of you to do a similar exercise. I can’t even wish them off as over-enthusiastic supporters. They are so committed to Modi that it is well nigh impossible to be objective in future. Unknown to us, we have created a lynch mob. But then, they have only learnt it from their leader who had used the “Mian” in Musharraf, and the “James Michael” in Lyngdoh to create insecurities and mass votes. Even as a PM aspirant, he peddles epithets such as “Shahzada” (Rahul) and “Pakistani friend” (Arvind Kejriwal) and vitiates the discourse. A leader who has only created a legion of followers but no second line of leadership needs a stronger opposition in Parliament. The checks and balances have to be stronger.
The agenda for positive change, good governance and development are mere statements that have got lost in the election carried forward by his followers. What started off as a positive campaign soon descended into bullying. Development is no longer the narrative. Maybe, it is too much to expect from a party which prioritized the charge-sheet to the manifesto. The bias was such that the same people who quoted Time (“The Under Achiever” cover on Dr.Manmohan Singh) started criticizing and questioning The Economist and The Guardian for ‘interfering’ in India’s internal affairs. Hypocrisy has become synonymous with politics.
And then yesterday, a beast amongst us slapped Arvind Kejriwal. It was ferocious. It was brutal. It was inhumane. It was meant to physically hurt. As AK held his face, it was heart-breaking. He had a black eye and a swollen cheek. This attack was not meant to prove a political point. AK retreated to Raj Ghat. And the BJP bandwagon took to the streets and launched their attack in a highly synchronized manner. They forgot humanity in pursuit of political affiliations. It was celebration time. The slap was a butt of jokes. AK was despised, derided, laughed at, attacked, and violated. It was appalling. Each time as I watched the slap, my heart wept. Is this the society we have come to be?
Last night, My decision was made. There was greater clarity. I don’t want a society where hatred wins over love, violence over peace, anger over amity, frown over smile, sternness over calmness, negativity over positive feelings. I don’t want a society where the mobs decide the agenda cleverly planted by a handful of people (we have seen it in 1984 and 2002).
I decided. I will vote with my conscience. I will vote for peace. I will reject divisiveness. I will vote for change. I vote to bring in a good opposition in the parliament. I vote for AAP.
Post Script: After writing the above, I have learnt about AK’s Gandhigiri in visiting his attacker. I know that the cynics among us will dismiss it as yet another “drama” but given the choice between the politics of hate and politics of truth and reconciliation that this latest gesture symbolises, I am all for more such gestures of trying to understand diverse points of view.
pranky wrote:
Watched this video posted above…
and also the one where she expressed her opinion on Juvenile act / claim.
Such a nice lady she is and what real good work these guys are doing on ground level, we are just talkers and chatters, really an eye opener!
Thanks bro for your honest comment.
Glad that you saw the video and expressed your views on this. I just hope the Bhakts spreading lies and propaganda against her also get to know about her.
the country will not survive if we mindlessly attack such Great Human Beings simple because they are not contesting from BJP.
OP how can you ask to reply to this thread by open mind ? DAN k paas tho hai no mind
uska mind tho hijacked by the great kejru
still Waiting for a response from BJP supporters,
may be Bhakts lack"open Mind" or “Open” or “mind”,
that all they can write is abuses instead are answers to sane questions.