Suggestions required in pursuing legal course of action against the fraudster @Dealmaker411 (420)
In continuation to my earlier thread, https://www.desidime.com/discussions/fraudster...., he is supposed to return my amount by 15.10.24 morning at the most, today is 21.10.24 still no payment. So, I would like to pursue legal course of action the fraudster @DealMaker411. His payment handle Piyushm77@fifederal.
Inputs are requested from members who already pursued any such earlier or recently.
I am alerting the @admin too regarding the same.
Brief recall of the issue. I bought 10k * 1 flipkart gv from him on 09.10.24 and while buying I informed and asked him too about my delayed usage of gv. (screenshot attached).
And later on 13.10.24, I bought 5k * 2 fk gvs from him and when I tried to redeem them, they are found to be not gvs at all, just random numbers suffixed to 6000. Then I got suspicious about the fraudster and checked the earlier i.e. 9.10.24 bought 10k * 1 gv, that gv was already added to some flipkart account and started partially redeeming too on 10.10.24 i.e. immediately a day after selling to me as per quicksilver.
That means, the fraudster is selling some random numbers as gvs and even if those are truly gvs, he himself use up those gvs later or sell the same gv to multiple buyers.
In chat as well as in my earlier thread, he assured the payment by 15.10.24 morning (https://www.desidime.com/discussions/fraudster-...) but that was never happening. So taking these coercive legal steps as last resort and hence, requesting inputs.
Thanks in advance.
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Kuch bolunga toh vivaad ho jayga.
Tr- if I say something, there will be arguments.
That's why no comments from my side.
I need some inputs especially that based on the usage history in quicksilver, can we trace the buyer i.e. to whom this fraudster @DealMaker411 sold the same gv.
U came came to know after 5 days, that voucher is invalid?
Bought in Second transaction- 5k * 2 vouchers invalidity i.e. his scamming activity of selling some random vague numbers as gvs, i came to know on the very night i bought those i.e. on 13.10.24. That alerted me to check the 09.10.24 done first transaction 10k * 1 gv. Simultaneously or after selling to me, he sold the same gv to someone else and one of those multiple buyers is redeeming gradually, as per usage history.
what is the disputed amount ? unless it is atleast in a few lacs i doubt anything would happen
10k gv- 3% discount means- 9700/-.
We can't simply say that for only in lakhs we can anticipate recovery. Recently, one incident happened where one guy disappeared from telegram after taking amount for 1k gv and after 6 months he himself pinged me and returned my amount with a request to close the cyber crime complaint raised against him. Actually, I did not raised any complaint, maybe some other victim raised it and that mini fraudster misunderstood that complaint as mine 😃
Never run behind unrealistic discount. I have traded with you multiple times with no issues from either end. But nowadays you are expecting a very high discount
I whenever sell any gv I told the buyer to check and confirm because I don't want hassel after few days. Although never faced any issue but I prefer if the buyer is adding the gift card in their account.
As per the old thread, what i understood is, he refund u for 10k and for another 10k the refund is pending due to issue pending at zingoy.
Did i understand it right?
Bro don't mind but Itna advance me gv lene ki koi khaas wajah? And if you wanted to accumulate then you should have added them in your account and used them later.
2% Par Lekar 5% Pr Sell Karne Walo K Sath Aisa Hi Hota Hai Jaisa @DealMaker411 Ke Sath Huva...Khud Ke Source Se Buy Kar Karna Phir Sell Karna Hi Uttam Hai.
@narayana1dd249 Bhai Next Time Jab Bhi Kisi Bande Se Deal Karo To WhatsApp/DD Pr GV Buy Karne Ki Jagah Mail Pr GV Wala Mail Forward Karwana...Uske Baad Agar Banda Trusted Lage To WhatsApp/DD Pr Trade Karna.
Buy now and use later scenarios, trust i.e. genuineness of seller prevails over than any process or method the buyer adopt for dealing. Frankly admitting, it's my callousness to buy gvs from a very less active, almost a newbie. I did this several times with a motive to encourage all regardless of their seniority or karma but this time its proved to be a costly risk. it's not only costly, it's almost deadly, 3 gvs only I bought from him and all the three gvs are ingenuine, needless to say more than this to tell about any fraudster.
Last warning to @DealMaker411
......FBI, CBI, IB, ED ...on their way to arrest him
https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1dikwuw...
i suggest all newbies ( or even veterans for that matter) to have some trusted member ( like me ) to escrow the transaction
charges would be minimal like 1 - 3 percent of the overall transaction but still better than getting scammed
Just suggestion:
if you are buying large amounts of vouchers "for later use", buy it directly from gift websites that way you dont have to check anything most of the time (and refund incase of error)
if you are buying small amounts, buy and stock up using trading section, (although not recommended to stock up "traded vouchers" as we wont know the validity of it before until we add it to our account, so better add it immediately dont stock up traded vouchers, to avoid issues like this post)
I love Desidime ❤️
Kuch na kuch hamesha lga rhta hai.
Thanks So much to these kids (involved in such trading) who always find ways to entertain the whole forum.
I should not say this thing but i actually regret returning you the amount of 10k the same day scam happened. Instead I should have redirected you to the guy who scammed me but because it was my deal I took the responsibility and returned you the money immediately but you are still calling me fraudster this that etc when all of this is being delayed by Zingoy and I am not running anywhere just waiting for their resolution, it feels bad to listen about yourself as fraudster when you haven't done a single thing wrong and still some random a** s** guy calls you scammer just because he came to know after 5 days that the voucher is of 500 less value than expected and the source is yet to confirm and resolve it , painful it is but anyways who can stop these keyboard warriors from doing unnecessary s** when it could have been resolved very easily and simply, all we were required to do is wait for zingoy resolution
You would spend more money on legal costs than what you lost. This sounds like a civil case so don't think of consumer forum as the trade itself is illegal.
Chill bro, he's not going to do anything.
2-4% ke profit margin par jinka dhandha tika hai wo lawyer ki consultation fee sunkr wapis aa jaenge.
A good lawyer is not going to even entertain such guys, obviously because he dosent have time for such things.
Ye sb bs Desidime ke lie theek hai, Dimers ka bhi entertainment hota rhta hai aur log seekhte bhi rhte hain how to not get scammed online
Time is money.. wait kar lo.. atleast he is trying to resolve.. looks like legit issue.. not fraud intensionally.. so better to solve without being bad if other side cooperative and giving all info whats going on in issue
1 week se last warning de rha @narayana1dd249 kch to kar aage ya sirf thread create krta rhega
offcourse ... please .
admin can close this thread , he can go ahead with legal , cyber crime etc actions .
bhai ab to aisa lg rha jaise @admin khud mje le rha @narayana1dd249 ke
I whenever sell any gv I told the buyer to check and confirm because I don't want hassel after few days. Although never faced any issue but I prefer if the buyer is adding the gift card in their account.
2% Par Lekar 5% Pr Sell Karne Walo K Sath Aisa Hi Hota Hai Jaisa @DealMaker411 Ke Sath Huva...Khud Ke Source Se Buy Kar Karna Phir Sell Karna Hi Uttam Hai.
@narayana1dd249 Bhai Next Time Jab Bhi Kisi Bande Se Deal Karo To WhatsApp/DD Pr GV Buy Karne Ki Jagah Mail Pr GV Wala Mail Forward Karwana...Uske Baad Agar Banda Trusted Lage To WhatsApp/DD Pr Trade Karna.