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Welcome. We discuss stock market, shares and IPOs, other avenues of investments like mutual funds, fixed deposits and everything related to finance. Share your views, share your ideas. Get help and information by fellow dimers on trading and demat account, bank account or mutual fund schemes. Help everyone and keep thread for informative purpose, learning and earning. Enjoy! Markets are going crazy and it's IPOs galore in bull market. October will see atleast 5 IPOs out of which 3 are confirmed. My views are Godrej Agrovet - Long term/listing gains MAS Financial - Listing Gains/For risk takers IEX India - Risk takers/avoid - Steeply priced IEX India investor PTC sold it's share at 140 odd 5 years ago. Few more investors sold from 290 to 600 range in last 2-3 years due to regulatory reason (5% max stock holding in exchange), they are asking 1650 now! Justified? You decide. In MAS, Motilal Oswal sold share at 338 and they are asking 459 now in a year. This much premium is justified? In rising market, may be. P/E is also higher side considering much bigger players like M&M, Bajaj Finserve etc. Godrej Agrovet is pick right now with much big production scale, wide reach and less P/E compare to animal feed and dairy products peers. Godrej has good managment and known for leaving something for investors. Take your call. Disclaimer - This thread is for discussion and doesn't provide any investment or related information. All investments carry market related risk and one should consult advisors before taking any decision.
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अगर सब कुछ मिल जाएगा ज़िंदगी मे तो तमन्ना किसकी करोगे... कुछ अधूरी ख्वाइशें तो ज़िन्दगी जीने का मज़ा देती है ।।
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खऱ्या अर्थाने कोणी कोणाला शिकवू शकत नाही. एखाद्या रोपटयाचा जसा आपोआपच विकास होतो तसाच नैसर्गिक अडथळे दूर करणे, आणि त्याच्या शक्तींना जागृती आणणे. योग्य खतपाणी घातले, प्रकाश व हवापाणी यांची सोय केली, सभोवती कुंपन घातले, म्हणजे रोपटे सुरक्षित राहील व त्याचा योग्य प्रकारे विकास होईल. तसेच मुलांचेही आहे. म्हणून विकासाला योग्य‍ परिस्थिती निमार्ण करुन देणे हेच शिक्षकाचे कार्य. या दृष्टीने शिक्षण हे अभावात्मक म्हणावे लागेल. You cannot teach a child any more than you can grow a plant. The plant develops its own nature. The child also teaches itself. But you can help it to go forward in its own way. What you can do is not of a positive nature but negative. You can take away the obstacles and knowledge comes out of its own nature. Loosen the soil a little, so that it may come out easily. Put a hedge round it, see that it is not kitted by anything. You can supply the growing seed with the materials for the making up of its body, brining to it the earth, the water, the air that it wants. And there your work stops. - Swami Vivekanand
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offer of the year

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…Bad luck continues….No reliance nippon as usual….

….No agrovet…no mas…

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Khadim gmp improves to 13-15 buyers comes, hdfc goes down in single figure at 7-9 sellers only. Mahindra sellers, 2-4 last gmp. RNAM no trade, gmp 35-40.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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…Reliance nippon…good listing….17%….

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All fall down.

Mahindra no gmp. Khadim 5-7 rs. HDFC 12-13.50. Something which punters know from a week that we don’t know yet. From 130-150 to no gmp is big. Sellers searching buyers, no one available making NII in trouble.

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Exactly at no gmp. Tau je ke hoya? sad

Waise it still might close green. I still feel big game will be played by the operators. Ya fir game khel gaye Modi bhakt Mahindra ke saath milke? toungueout

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Good that I paused investing in IPOs lately and started searching for other decent but a bit risky options for minor investments. GICRE looks bad so far but I am a bit affirmative to get decent returns on long term and bid for New India Assurance for which I am sure I will get allocation and opening loss too.

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Waiting for GIC to breach 780. Delivery volumes are getting less every day but still falling means operators or short sellers are in command. Once it turns back, it’ll zoom very quick. But long way to go looks like.

For other ipo I feel some big game is going. Most sites were showing wrong gmp and trades were done at far low prices. Many investors trapped. Most stocks have gone into operators hand. All the Mahindras and Khadims will see very volatile listing day. Perhaps might even close at 20% plus or minus. Something is definitily cooking.

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Koi hai jisne meri tarah IEX hold kiya hua hai?

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Aur Kya hai port folio mai ?

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Applied 1 lot of hdfc only for it’s brand name. Every mutual fund will have it in portfolio. Itna bhi accha nahi ki saare demat se laga doon isilye sirf 1 lot ka risk liya.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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congrats… you are lucky this time…you will get 1 out 1 .100% strike rate

Talk-Of-The-Town Talk-Of-The-Town
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Applied for 1lot of HDFC Life @ cutoff price. My first ever IPO bidding cool

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Could somebody tell me what is process to apply IPO ?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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just put couple of keywords from your q “process to apply IPO” in google and find out urself… still something not clear, then ask pointed question ..people will be more than ready for help

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Tomorrow is the last day for SME IPO of ANI Integrated Services Ltd.
Lagana hai ya chhodna hai?

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Bhyaya ipo howe hai ek jua ya keh lo sarkaari satta. 14-15 hazar ki blind theek se. Sava lakh ki blind financial suicide hai. Saving capital should be 1st aim in market. Kal ko Trump khisak gaya ya uski khisak gai to 10500 se 7500 nifty aate der nai lagni. Seconds mein ho jayega.

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HDFC Life Subscription Status @ 8.00pm
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Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIB) -——- 16.60x (Closed)
Non Institutional Investors (NII) -—————— 2.29x (Closed)
Retail Individual Investors(RII) -——————- 0.92x
Employee Reserved (EMP) -————————- 1.23x
Shareholder Reserved (SHA) -——————— 0.30x

Total -———————————————————————- 4.90x

No.of Applications (Approx) -————- 1150367
Retail Applicationwise (Approx) -——— 0.62x

So congrats to all Retail investors. Sure shot success this time

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One more overpriced ipo bites the dust.

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Everyday I think GIC will fall and I’ll buy. Everyday it opens gap up and falls at closing hours. Saare milke humko pagal bana rahe hain macharjhol ke bacche.

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What to do with godrej Agrovet

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Guys i have one query…suppose issue price range is 870-912 for lot of 25 shares and i applied on cutoff price(i.e. 912)…and finally ipo listed on 850…then on listing day what would be my asset i.e. 912*25 or 850*25……thanks smile

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once it is listed… market price * 25.
There is no static price after it list in stock market.

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HDFC Life listing tomorrow. Irrespective of gmp, my gut feeling says it may touch 320 during the day. Will sell around that. Will buy more below 250, if it goes.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Listing is on Monday 20th Nov, received official mail from Karvy (Registrar)

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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…..Atlast….an ipo opened with some gain..cheers for those who subscribed….

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Not bad listing. 1250 ka munafa. Sold at 314.95 smile

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326 surprised

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As stated in another thread, news comes out to be true that government will take all money from retailers. Modi is fulfilling all divestment targets with high valuations, low growth bharat 22 etf. Retails gets firm allotment. Etf size doubled. Qib portion not filled fully, goes to retails. Lagegi waat. toungueout

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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…Why would anyone wants to buy Bharat 22 with nhpc,ntpc,sjvn etc…better buy tata power,torrent power…I mean didnt apply for it as i felt its overvalued even after 3% discount…..

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Bharat 22 ETF allotment at price of 35.97 per unit. Current ETF valued around 37.48.

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Current value must be calculated on the basis of average price of 15-17 nov.

How to know the value as on date of issuance /credit in dmat.?

They launched the index in Aug17 ,
Does that mean it has base of rs 10 as on some date in history ?

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Shalby hospital is coming on 5th. At 248, it’s just about fairly valued. Can’t say more on this. Disclosure – I may have vested interest with shalby.

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Oh the same near Holkar Stadium and Patnipura ?

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Benevolent Benevolent
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I am taking a break from IPOs, especially after the recent track record of not able to get allotment for blockbuster IPOs and getting allotment for IPOs which came down by 6.5% to 18%. If I find some company so promising then will try to fetch it on opening day.

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Bharat etf listing tomorrow. No credits in demat yet. sad

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Please share December IPOs list

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Shalby Limited 5-7 Dec 245-248 60 shares lot 55-60 gmp
Future Supply Chain 6-8 Dec 660-664 22 shares lot 60-65 gmp

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Hi, is any body have whtzapp group ?

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Sold Bharat 22 at 37.28, not good not bad.

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Why? Don’t expect it to rise?

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Shalby gmp fell to 35-40 today and future gmp rose to 70-75. Yesterday both opened equally while price-wise one is almost half to another.

Interesting time ahead. One which has left value on table is going down and another which is known for high value stocks in IPOs is going up!!

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Bhai, point is if we can generate 3-4% by short term investing in IPOs etc, then that is better than getting 6-8% in debt funds.

I missed HDFC Life, (because I did not have money), now thinking if something else can help.

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Bhai, IPOs are biggest manipulated scam in stock market. It comes only when markets are all time high and greedy promoters or ones who are cooking up books from years asks for prices which are no way justified. Even hdfc could be one of the scam if sebi decides to search as promoter said he timed market according to Moody’s rating live on tv. And for quick understanding, see where sucessful IPOs of 2008 and 2011 are trading at. You’ll find 75% are 1/10 of price asked, 10% are not even traded, 10% are above price without any growth or returns, just 5% have given some real handsome gains. Where chance of making quick money, allotment chance is low and where chances of losing money, allotment is high. Few years from now, HDFC will trade at half if not 1/10th, GICs and NIAs will be positive, khadims and mahindra will be wiped out.

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