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What do you guys think on the day by day increasing agitation of the farmers around Delhi against the new farm laws. Farmers have also called for a nationwide one day strike on 8th December.

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Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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I don’t think dimers have any say here (unless someone is also a farmer)
It’s between the government and farmers.
We should be supporting the farmers in all cases though, governments keep coming and going, farmers are permanent smile

Benevolent Benevolent
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Seems like from all this only private companies will get benefit.

Farmers will be now controlled by these private players instead of middle man. I see no benifit to them..

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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As a farmer’s son my questions 1.if mandis are closed how will govt procure for pds 2. Without mandi how price discovery happen 3.middleman abolition is a myth . infact corporate will have high bargaining power aganist farmers than local traders 4. U can’t have right to go to court if dispute arises local authority will solve how will it work 5.if predatatory pricing is done by corporates how will u fix it 6.govt saying u can sell anywhere in india.how it is possible because logistics cost is very high 7.hoarding in any quantity is legal u can easily manipulate price

Last but not least don’t shade farmers as khalistanins / terrorist

I fully support this movement and law should be scrapped

Infact in this bill consumer and farmers will be loser and big corporate will be winner

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Benevolent Benevolent
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After going through the provisions of the laws, they have come to the conclusion that these are anti-farmer laws. So they want them withdrawn.

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The main question is whether these laws will get repealed or not..

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Deal Major Deal Major
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he is silent observer stuck_out_tongue

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Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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I don’t think dimers have any say here (unless someone is also a farmer)
It’s between the government and farmers.
We should be supporting the farmers in all cases though, governments keep coming and going, farmers are permanent smile

Deal Major Deal Major
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one farmer was saying we get only 7 rupees per kg for potatoes as against retail price of 50+

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Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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The system has misunderstood MSP for “Maximum selling price”
Hardly any farmer gets MSP, getting higher than that is a dream

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Those who are concerned about farmers should definitely read all M swaminathan committee reports and the inflation trap for not giving farmers their due share.

Critic Critic
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Went through the same…inflation has already shooted up..but the prices of veggies haven’t caught the same pace…swaminathan report has given an ideal situation which is not at all possible but the report has also not given any point for the application/formation of these laws

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Benevolent Benevolent
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As per these laws, foodgrains, onions, vegetables and pulses are no longer essential items and hoarding is no longer illegal. So if the laws stay, be prepared pay more for your food.

Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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Aren’t we already paying more wink

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Benevolent Benevolent
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If anyone came accross an unbiased article about this please give a link.

Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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+1, every author sharing his POV. Only extremes available, nothing balanced

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Farmers are on right way.

Super Stud Super Stud
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They have come with an insane law and same kind of law are in European countries and USA and suicide in rural America in more in compare to urban America and mostly farmers sucide. And average compensation in European countries and USA is 60000$ and in India is 60$. And USA has largest retail buyers Walmart. Rip economic advisor of govt.

Critic Critic
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The same type of reform has already been tried in bihar in 2006 and we are still figuring out the level of destruction and havoc it caused to the farmers of bihar.

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Benevolent Benevolent
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Seems like from all this only private companies will get benefit.

Farmers will be now controlled by these private players instead of middle man. I see no benifit to them..

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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As a farmer’s son my questions 1.if mandis are closed how will govt procure for pds 2. Without mandi how price discovery happen 3.middleman abolition is a myth . infact corporate will have high bargaining power aganist farmers than local traders 4. U can’t have right to go to court if dispute arises local authority will solve how will it work 5.if predatatory pricing is done by corporates how will u fix it 6.govt saying u can sell anywhere in india.how it is possible because logistics cost is very high 7.hoarding in any quantity is legal u can easily manipulate price

Last but not least don’t shade farmers as khalistanins / terrorist

I fully support this movement and law should be scrapped

Infact in this bill consumer and farmers will be loser and big corporate will be winner

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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1. Mandis aren’t abolished. So, chill other option to sell in market is given, otherwise mandi is option.

2. Current act mandates auction in open market, has it ever happened? No you just ask the middlemen the price and sell. Now, you can directly sell to other sellers with multiple options, if you feel you aren’t getting the right price but can you do it now? Eg online grocery chains are directly buying from farmer in ncr and are getting more than regular mandi prices.

3. Farmer protection is myth as question of predatory pricing comes into picture when only few business houses are involved but not otherwise and you can still sell to mandi.

4. You have right to go to Sdm court not higher courts and this should be changed and govt should change it.

5. Everyone wants profit and mandis are always open.

6. E Nam mandi is there in you district? If yes, you can register and sell on it, logistic are usually taken care by buyer otherwise file an rti to get the status.

7. You should definite read how essential commodity act is harming your farming business.

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Benevolent Benevolent
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kejriwal…aya, gya, fir aya, fir jaega…
modi…aya, fir aya, shayd fir ayega ya jayega…
rahul gandi…kbhi aya hi ni to jayega kya…
farmer….sda tha, hai, aur sda rhega…
#support_farmers

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Oh god! Bless india pray

Critic Critic
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Yeh to Hona hi tha…

It may be a small section but politics & religion is intermingled with everything in our country. I feel for small farmers who have to endure everything including such elements amongst their own midst.

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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They came for Rafale, then they came for Amazon, Flipkart, then they came for GVK, ………………. and now they came for the farmers.
Ambani’s needs to go. Too much power and wealth.

Pro Community Angel Pro Community Angel
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Personal POV of the author wink
Being a noob in this field, I tend to believe every author that I read and that too from both extreme sides toungueout

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Bhaiya, Farmer Leaders don’t know about the laws, they just saying, We dint know about these rules, just take them back joy joy.
Matlab kuch bhi? Fertilizers and Cancerous products produce karne wale apni Zindagi ki bheekh maang rhe hai.
Organic farming karne wale, are not a part of this Protest.

Investor Guru Investor Guru
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Arey rajniti me congress ki ek aur nakamyaab shadyantra 🐒🐒

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Are you a farmer? Who can understand the new farm amendment better than farmers. Government wants bring private players forcing farmers to sell them their crops rather than government mandi. Government consider MSP as burden for economy & wants to get away by bring privatize players. MSP must be provided to farmers granted by government.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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It is requested to the farmers:
1. Not to grow rice in the fields due to lack of Water resources.
2. Not to burn parali.
3. Not to use excess UREA.
4. Not to use excess Pesticides.

Lekin HAM NAHI MAANENGEY, ham KISAAN hai.
Kisaan Ekta Zindabad.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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But farmers knows best, who are you to tell? Govt is pro corporate mandi ma produce auction ho nahi rahi but corporate waley aa kar zabardasti le jaayengey, aisey toh sab boltey hai daam nahi mil raha and bicholiya kha jaata hai. Sahi hai India is going to stay in middle income trap, educ system is out date, youth are devoid of skill, negligible manufacturing but reform nahi karna hai (post 1991 ke baad toh Indian slaves ban gaye hai foreigns ke, India companies were in fortune 500 before it and ab koi puch nahi raha but capitalists media use sabko karna hai)

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Waise ek aur baat: ab koi ye kyu nhi keh rha ki:

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Kyun ki sab Aapke waisa ********** ka Course nahi Kiya hai

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Today Ravi Shankar Prasad (Union Minister of Law and Justice) presented some facts that Congress, NCP and many other parties were in favour of totally close APMCs.
and now all these parties are opposing it. In fact, in new law there is no such point that APMCs will be closed.

I am son of farmer. In agriculture secotor only middle men are earning handsome amount. so in new law if there is provision that farmer can directly sale their crop what is wrong in it?
ex: Before a month we and many other farmers in my village sold bringles at Rs.1/kg to a middle man in APMC and on same day in local market bringles were being sold at Rs35/kg. Who earned here?
If there were private player, if they even give Rs.5-10/kg, it could increase income many fold.
Yesterday one journalist presented some data that in Gujarat only 35-40% agriculture productions being sold in APMC. so 60% are being sold directly to private business or local market.
Same way, there are couple of states ( i don’t remember names ) in that only 6-7% farmers are selling crop in APMC.
I know some farmer who doing contract farming who selling potatos to Lays, McDonal etc and earning around 5-7 time more than normal formers.

So i think current introduced law is balanced, who want to sale in APMC can go there and who don’t like APMC can sale directly to private business or market leagally.
Also, if big companies are paying high, what is wrong in doing contract farming?

If middle man are there, farmers can’t earn properly.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Corporate will be new middleman with large powers compared to current middle man. Say one country where contract farming is successful.u didn’t know about lays case in court against farmers

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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An ye kaun bol rha hai.. ki FARMER PROTEST ko support karne wale ab INDIAGATE, LAYS, PEPSICO ka bhi boycott kar rhe hai sweat_smile sweat_smile

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